And hopefully, young boys will see that a male-directed this and think I can do that too. And for me, it was no big deal to want to take the man until here and try to tell this story. [1] An examination of sexism in the Hollywood film industry, the film interviews a variety of actresses and women filmmakers on their experiences in the industry. Maria Giese is a director who felt shut out of directing because she's a woman. MARTIN: Why do you think that was the click moment for you? So I never thought about it again. This Changes Everything. On a platform out at sea, they have formed The Community - a new type of society and a better way of living. German GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. Croatian . Since then it has been shown 1000s of times in community screenings around the world. I decided that I would try becoming a model first because, at that time, Christie Brinkley and Lauren Hutton were being offered parts in movies. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is nothing funny here. GROSS: So you went to the ACLU, and then the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission became involved, too. And I'm like, oh, my God, no. GROSS: And I just think it's so interesting that we're having this conversation about women's empowerment and inclusion of women, and the first part of your career revolves around being in your underwear (laughter). In 2012, my archery coach noticed that when both Brave and The Hunger Games came out, suddenly the percentage of girls taking up archery shot up 105 percent, higher than adult men. DAVIS: Well, I definitely see a big shift happening in Hollywood in the past couple of years since #MeToo and Time's Up. What if confronting the climate crisis is the best chance well ever get to build a better world? By what name was This Changes Everything (2018) officially released in India in English? This Changes Everything. And I'd like to see if I could do that. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. And it was just, you know, doing a video with a casting assistant. It's about two women who grab ahold of their fate and refuse to relinquish control no matter how far it takes them, that they remain in charge of their destiny. JOIN NOW. DONAHUE: Sure. But it didnt take her long to realize that she was the exception and not the rule. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I called to say we were going to greenlight it, the male executive on the other end of the line literally hung up on me. And a little by little, I introduced them to a group of my female colleagues. Chinese Complex For the first thing I showed her, there were profoundly more male characters than female, and it was aimed at two-year- olds. In 2004, she founded the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media. And so thats what I did and, in fact, its proven that theyre incredibly grateful and horrified and embarrassed. All but one of the women were interviewed for this film, and Donahue takes his time to carefully lay out the details and takeaways of their efforts (which led the D.G.A. By Joel Horwood. And, you know, the growing movement against Keystone XL, but, frankly, all of the tar sands pipelines, is really starting to resonate right there in the electoral cycle. GROSS: Geena Davis, Maria Giese, thank you both so much for talking with us. The story goes full circle back to Alberta and what should or needs to be done to combat climate change while dealing with the economy and thus people's short term well-being. Its always been that way. So theres something really deep and systemic going on. Throughout the film, Klein builds to her most controversial and exciting idea: that we can seize the existential crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. MARTIN: In fact, there is a clip in the film where you talk about the fact that representation in actually entertainment can actually matter in the real world. You used to make a movie a year. . So there's no way for us to really know where the investigation is, even though it's now, oh - what? Climate change isnt just another issue to be neatly filed between taxes and health care. GROSS: And, you know, you're dressed in your underwear so it's even more, like, imposing and, for him, kind of embarrassing because he's a man who is finding it all very arousing, and he shouldn't be there because he's posing as a woman. Now, this changes everything. The main thing that's very different is now it's completely OK to talk about this stuff. Lithuanian You know, some shows are researched and all that and certainly harmless. But so I think that will change and I think it will impact society, that life will imitate art. This Changes Everything. Like I think a lot of people have become familiar with the whole question of representation on screen. GROSS: came into play here, too, because there's more of you for Dustin Hoffman to be fazed by when he walks in. No, I didn't think, oh, it's me, at all. GEENA DAVIS: Well, it was pretty dramatic. MARTIN: So you can see it with kids entertainment? Against the backdrop of Greece in crisis, a powerful social movement rises. makes a muscular case for global warming as the defining, cross-sectional issue of our era., [A]robust new polemic . After the release of This Changes Everything book and film, Naomi went on a sold out tour to speak to audiences worldwide. Ukrainian. And so obviously you only come when you're shooting, but I came every day at the beginning of the day (laughter) and grabbed my chair and put it next to Sydney and sat next to him all day, every day, making the movie. So I figured, well, I mean, what were the odds anyway I was going to be in a Sydney Pollack movie with Dustin Hoffman? Interwoven with these stories of struggle is Naomi Klein's narration, connecting the carbon in the air with the economic system that put it there. Hilary Weston Writers Trust Prize for Nonfiction. French a scene from This Changes Everything, the documentary. Swedish Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Go behind the scenes of Netflix TV shows and movies, see what's coming soon and watch bonus videos on. -Entertainment Weekly You know, the "Teletubbies" are gender-balanced; I don't know if you can tell. Romanian And if you're just joining us, my guest is actor Geena Davis and director Maria Giese. This Changes Everything Review: Hollywoods Men, Called to Action, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/08/movies/this-changes-everything-review.html. And this is in every sector of society, its the same story. This is FRESH AIR. And womens films do make more money and have, I think, over the last three years. If she can see it, she can be it. Terms Privacy Policy For Our Members Access, All rights reserved. It'll ruin your career was the thinking. And they got really excited. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was very lucky because Greys Anatomy was developed under the network presence. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. In 2004, she founded the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media to get the actual data comparing the number and types of male and female roles and to use that data to convince the industry of the need for change. DAVIS: Right. GROSS: So you and your friend, played by Susan Sarandon - they go on a trip together, have a lot of drinks in a bar, guy comes up to you, asked to dance with you. And so it's just a battle with yourself the whole time. Accuracy and availability may vary. Some positive developments are shown in China and Germany specifically. As defeated as one feels when you dont see a change happening, I really do think that it can and that it will. . Klein and those impassioned protesters provide something that has been in short supply in the predecessors Was that because you thought that was the way you could break in? . Women are socialized to go along with the dominant patriarch. GROSS: And you also are an archer - like bow and arrow archery. On TV, you have women like Shonda Rhimes, Ava DuVernay, who's also in movies, and Reese Witherspoon not only doing shows that have women in them but also - certainly with Ava DuVernay, she makes a point of hiring women directors and often women directors of color for her series "Queen Sugar." GROSS: And doesn't know where to put his eyes. but like a place where we actually want to live And she demonstrates precisely why the market has notand cannotfix the climate crisis but will instead make things worse, with ever more extreme and ecologically damaging extraction methods, accompanied by rampant disaster capitalism. SANDRA OH: Shonda was able to make half of her cast not white. This was my plan (laughter). As the staggering statistics on gender parity continue to demonstrate, though, not much has changed. She braids together the science, psychology, geopolitics, economics, ethics and activism that shape the climate question. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They dont care that Im black. So you started your career as a model. A look at seven communities around the world with the proposition that we can seize the crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. And it also struck a nerve that none of us expected. I think the big advantage was that people who make kids entertainment do it because they care about kids. . Filmed over 211 shoot days in nine countries and five continents over four years, This Changes Everything is an epic attempt to re-imagine the vast challenge of climate change. What is the connection? GROSS: But you're in your underwear. Why hasnt it changed before now? The documentary This Changes Everything gives audiences a look at how the tropes of "the girlfriend," the "useless chick," and the beauty who needs to "be saved" are still alive and well. You hear so many women speaking up when they encounter injustice and openly talking about it. Watch This Changes Everything: Men Don't See Us Women Equal. . Didnt seem to happen. YES Magazine GROSS: And you even competed to be on the Olympic archery team. But we were stunned at the reaction that was instant - cover of Time magazine and all that stuff. This documentary takes a deep look at gender disparity in Hollywood through the eyes of well-known actresses and female filmmakers. Filmed over 211 shoot days in nine countries and five continents over four years,This Changes Everythingis an epic attempt to re-imagine the vast challenge of climate change. The realization that a solution is possible, well, that changes everything For the record: 11:23 a.m. Aug. 8, 2019 An earlier version of this review included a photo from the 2015 climate-change documentary "This Changes Everything." Also in the review, the memory of . So and it wasnt really until after Me Too and all that happened that we all realized, this is different now. They could say, what was I doing? So I think that's a big change that's happened. Suddenly, they could see what they were doing, and weve yet to leave any meeting where somebody doesnt say, you just changed my project. DONAHUE: There hasnt been a lot of change. The numbers have obviously not improved for decades. MARTIN: about women in Hollywood and the underrepresentation of women in Hollywood? GROSS: The one with the feathers and DAVIS: The one with the feathers and rhinestones? VarietyMagazine, If you care about justice you must see this. DAVIS: Hopefully not. OK. Let me just play a clip from him in the film. It takes an incisive look at the history, empirical evidence, and systemic forces that foster gender discrimination and thus reinforce disparity in our culture. But this struck me very deeply that we're training kids from the beginning, from minute one of absorbing popular culture, that women and girls are not as important as men and boys, and they're not as valuable to our society as men and boys. Maleeha Lodhi joins the program to explain tensions between Pakistan and India. In the lawless land of Gando, fierce bandits will stop at nothing to fight for their precious homeland and loved ones even if it means life or death. It ultimately all worked out for me, but the likelihood of becoming a famous model was actually pretty slim, and I didn't. And I started to do research. GROSS: So the EEOC has been conducting an investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors. MARTIN: And youre saying that entertainment really does matter. What have they each done? After we take a short break, we'll hear from photographer Bruce Talamon, whose photos of soul, funk and R&B stars of the '70s and early '80s are collected in a book. The catastrophic effects of climate change are viewed through the lens of those in the US northeast coast who suffered through Hurricane Sandy. Director Avi Lewis Writer And so that was really fun. He's got you pinned against a car. And I was like, you know, I was a huge fan of "GLOW" and very much wanted to do it. Grieving the loss of a best friend she couldnt protect, an ex-bodyguard sets out to fulfill her dear friends last wish: sweet revenge. And they didn't ask - after I read the part, they didn't ask to see my bathing suit. But what I did, also as Geena, was start looking at the numbers, and I started to notice that only 4% of studio features were directed by women, and only 13% of episodic TV shows were directed by women. She had to fight really hard to get them to put it on the air. Slovene This Changes Everything 2015 Not Rated 1 h 29 m IMDb RATING 6.4 /10 614 YOUR RATING Rate Play trailer 2:22 1 Video 16 Photos Documentary A look at seven communities around the world with the proposition that we can seize the crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. Portuguese You were signed to a big agency. And Kim and I are sitting there going like, well, respectfully, I dont think you know what youre talking about. And then maybe five years later, another movie comes out with a female star. Not rated. I'm going to ask you to describe the premise. Mike and Alexis, a Montana goat ranching couple who see their dreams coated in oil from a broken pipeline. It was night and day, where before, they might say, hey, "Beetlejuice" or something. Anyone who then told me or told any other journalist in the future, its too hard, no, its not. And you say in the film that you were watching something with your daughter. Your first movie role, "Tootsie," you're in your underwear in the film. And a buddy movies are always men's movies. This Changes Everything is a 2015 documentary film directed by Avi Lewis.It is based on the book This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate by Naomi Klein.. MARTIN: Do you think its because your initial focus was on kids television? GROSS: So what was your strategy to try to open the door to more women directors? GROSS: Well, what was wrong with that plan? GROSS: There's Dustin Hoffman, who plays this man who can't get roles, finally auditions for a role posing as a woman in a soap opera. A star-studded documentary about gender inequality in film and TV is equal parts history lesson and constructive criticism. As an asteroid hurtles towards Earth with nothing to stop it, one determined teacher fights to keep her former students safe no matter the cost. Now we will see so many more female buddy pictures, female road movies or whatever and movies about female friendship. Running time: 1 hour 36 minutes. DAVIS: Exactly. A determined detective continues his search for the truth behind Asia's largest drug organization and its elusive boss he has unfinished business with. GROSS: So what about other women you knew from film school? That so it was already a conversation that started to happen when I start developing the film with my producing partner. And the ending's kind of similar, where, you know, they kind of ride off a cliff, and you drive off a cliff. Bulgarian . UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I did. GIESE: So in - five months after they received that letter from the ACLU, they began their investigation. This Changes Everything takes an incisive look into the male-dominated film industry to examine those forces - both conscious and unconscious - that continue to foster the systemic underrepresentation and misrepresentation of women. Be the first to contribute. TAX ID# 86-1943473, Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media, PO Box 9615, Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91701. (Laughter). Greek DAVIS: Well, so my character - they told me from the beginning - was a former showgirl who, when she was getting too old to do that, went into management and was able to create a successful career for herself that way. Female. And, you know, that's obviously an option that everybody can take. Your AMC Ticket Confirmation# can be found in your order confirmation email. DAVIS: Well, you know, we found that for every two speaking male characters, there's one female speaking character, and that there's an appalling amount of hypersexualization of female characters, even in G-rated movies, and the female characters are very often narrowly stereotyped, hypersexualized or not really integral to the plot. And I was counting on my hands as I held her in my lap, and it was horrifying, and I was absolutely stunned. DAVIS: Well, I mean, come on. I did get work, and it was through my model agency that I got my first acting job. Klein and Lewis paint a picture of a post-fossil-fueled, post-capitalist future that seems not only within reach, It really started for me at the end of 2014 with the Sony hack and finding out about the disparity in pay between Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper in American Hustle. Can we play that? I'm Terry Gross. Executive Producers: Geena Davis, Steve Edwards, Regina Scully, Simone Pero, Madeline Di Nonno, Jennie Peters, Patty Casby, Ku-Ling Yurman And it hasnt changed in all that time. . I think my peers and I were always operating under the assumption that you should never complain about anything. And I explained to them why I thought that this was so significant on a global level. The Film thischangeseverything.org Press Kit Aug. 05 2015 5 About the book The feature documentary was inspired by award-winning author Naomi Klein's critically acclaimed worldwide bestselling non-fiction book This Changes Everything. Danish Emerging economies in the developing world have tried to follow the western model for economic prosperity, with arguably the most marked example of the negative consequences being in China where many cities are continually shrouded in smog, some children in those cities who have never seen a blue sky. They founded the Directors Guild of Americas Womens Steering Committee in 1979. I think theres some backlash. And I think most people and certainly I did assume that kids entertainments are harmless, that they're - they might even be good for kids. Change or be changed, but make no mistake, this changes everything.. GROSS: Yes, you're not fazed by seeing Dustin Hoffman walk in because you think he's really a woman. JENNIFER LAWRENCE: Its our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal . Did you think of it as there not being enough roles for women in their 40s? Tom, do you want to add to that? And she documents the inspiring movements that have already begun this process: communities that are not just refusing to be sites of further fossil fuel extraction but are building the next, regeneration-based economies right now. Absolutely not. Naomi Kleins This Changes Everything is a ground-breaking work on how climate change changes everything. Its not going to benefit you. I never got another paying job. . . GROSS: So Geena Davis, I have a few questions for you about your career. GROSS: How did you decide to create your institute? When did things start to slow down in your acting career? CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Now, whether in politics or science or any other field, one thing is for sure, we need more women now. Once it finally begins to focus on the mission, however, This Changes Everything not only becomes engrossing but reveals itself as a crucial cri de coeur. It looks like we don't have any synopsis for this title yet. GROSS: But you were with Sydney Pollack. And so I thought, this is an enormous problem if we are training kids from the beginning that girls are second-class citizens. And I think thats but also part of it is that my peers and I felt like you cannot complain about any of this because they wont hire you. Finnish So it was so horrifying to me that we would be doing this to kids that I decided I had to try to do something. Can you talk about that? MARTIN: But Geena, this has to have happened to you throughout your career? And then I was watching the Olympics in Atlanta on TV and saw the archery competing, and I thought, wow, that is so beautiful and dramatic. Its not a spoiler to say that the documentary concludes with a call to action aimed squarely at (predominantly male) studio heads, pointing to the recent commitment to inclusive hiring by John Landgraf, the chief executive of the FX Networks, as an example of what real action can look like. . Geena Davis is an actress who starred in such films as "A League Of Their Own" and "Thelma & Louise." UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everyone, listen up, please. [Klein] writes of a decisive battle for the fate of the earth in which we either take back control of the planet from the capitalists who are destroying it or watch it all burn.. AMANPOUR: Let me just give some of the statistics that you cite in the film. And then after about a year and a half, they told me they were going to pursue it. This Changes Everything 2018 TV-PG 1 h 36 m IMDb RATING 7.7 /10 1.8K YOUR RATING Rate Play trailer 1:59 4 Videos 19 Photos Documentary An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry. And this is according to the Center for the Study of Women and Television and Film in San Diego State University. They're both featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about the campaign for more representation of women in front of and behind the camera in movies and TV. In 2018, 92 percent of the directors of the top 250 domestic releases were men. Even though Landgraf and several prominent men are interviewed, a title card notes that the studio heads the filmmakers reached out to declined to appear in the film. He said no, that's the whole point is competing. -Alice Walker, author and activist, Purposely unsettling Ultimately encouraging And why does that matter? MARTIN: To that point, heres a scene from the film which speaks with that with Kimberly Pierce, the director, and Chloe Grace Moretz. So I started making this movie. Audience Score 100+ Ratings. And there's a scene where you come out in - why don't you describe the costume. Davis and director Maria Giese discuss the dramatic. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You directed an episode of it. You were working with Dustin Hoffman. And I think the first thing to change will be on screen. Ukrainian, Arabic The Book, Documentary & Impact Project Theres no one they can complain to. This is FRESH AIR. Starring Naomi Klein Stacey Arwen Raab. And you try really hard to, like, throw him off of you. SCREENING GUIDES. Book & Film Study Guide. 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