Also who said this crime was over quickly? It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. I suspect he was breeding pitbulls for dogfighting. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. Only that there were stuffed animals. It also hints at the idea that they were meeting someone there, a gift for a date. I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. Not validated via LE, but its a popular rumor that police officer NM was the one supplying the apparently fake alibi for Mr. X. Still, the voice of the suspected. The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. And were going to stay after it. This makes me think of the dolls and stuffed animal left at the scene. Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. I doubt hes seen that classic film, but girls as flowers is common imagery. I think they were lured or catfished at some point. They certainly have my appreciation. Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, its clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short. He himself is then arrested for trying to rape/kill a nine year old. So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? Thanks for your response: appreciate that. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony. His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. "For now, to me, it's about protecting the integrity of this case.". I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. So if the search started technically in the dark on the 13th, the actual time they had when they could really see anything was from 9 AM to 12 PM on the 14th. Also re searchers, it was not Mr. X that found the bodies, it was actually Jake Johns. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. Thats also why Carter said, The killer, who may be in this room as we speak Because the guy who they think did it was indeed right there in that room as they were speaking! Delphi Murders Walkthrough via CrimeDoor The girls failed to meet Libby's father at the appointed time of 3:15 pm. Problem is that CSI cop NM was the one providing the alibi for Mr. X, so that theory doesnt work. Any theories? I will have to look it up again. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. The suspect was not someone the families knew, Mike Patty said. They are asking that anyone who recognizes the man in this photo to call the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413, the Delphi Police Department at 765-564-2345 or the Indiana . Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of. Im sure it will come out. The search along the Wabash began around August 19, when investigators were seen combing through the shallow waters with metal detectors and scuba gear. Mr. X? DELPHI, Ind. Simply because Delphi, Flora fire, and prior fraud/scams, all would be the same crime. Ive looked at associates of the business owners of the Flora house fire, and there are some very interesting names, big names, powerful names, cop names, etc. I dont even know what that means. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. "And thats the case. You have a million people who come out and say OMG THERES JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT. But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, Im sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasnt there. Hes just an ordinary AFC. The next day, Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found murdered allegedly by the unidentified man Libby. Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. Or by their accounts, what were they doing? The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. He has the whole town on his friends list. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. Thanks for all the investigative work and information you post. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. Another chilling detail recovered from Libertys phone emerged about a week after the girls were found a recording of what might have been the killers voice. In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . Just a guess. A special needs woman and a toddler? Trexler has prior DUI infractions to his name, police records show. ", Jury inspect eerie Murdaugh murder scene where mom & son were executed, US Navy faces being totally outgunned by China in just seven years, says expert, Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Travis Trexler was arrested on DUI charges, Kegan Kline was contacting Libby German through a catfish social media account the night before she was murdered, Libby (left) was murdered alongside her best-friend Abigail Williams (right) in Feb. 2017, Travis Trexler is a cousin of Kegan Kline's, Police ended a six-week search of the Washab River on Wednesday, The culprit behind the murders has never been identified, Precisely how the two girls were killed has never been revealed by police. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Local Indiana man arrested, charged in 2017 Delphi murders of teens. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. I don't know. For more information, please see our Also close friends with Ron Logan and Tobe Lozenby! Who were they? I havent seen the tape but a friend saw it and she said he had a huge smirk on his face the whole time. For safety and security, the IDOC declined to say which facility Allen is being held. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. So this implies that the two men were alone with each other, surely. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. A public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. "I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it," he told cops. Clear as day. Its a pretty big coincidence that both these towns have a Tyson pork processing plant nearby. The officer seeks clearance and lets the male through the cordon. The Murder Sheet Podcastfirst published the documents, and I-Team 8 has confirmed with a police source that the document is authentic. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. The search warrant request came just over two weeks after ISP investigators interviewed Kegan Kline, the man they say was behind the Anthony_Shots social media accounts. A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. It seems odd. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. The only exceptions are murder and treason. Supt. If I go with the assumption that it might have been a group of searchers that didn't include members of LE, I can't imagine being a member of the community and volunteering to help to search for anyone and then finding the person or persons deceased in probably what was an obvious sign of a homicide(s), especially as someone such as myself who has no LE experience (or medical experience, etc.) Im not sure about that. Im not sure if the reason for this is because the search parties just mentally glossed over that particular location for more remote spots or because theres something geographically strategic about that particular area that makes it less detectable. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. /u/LyonPirkey, thanks for the article. "It could potentially have nothing to do with the girls at all, and that's the sickening thing about it all, that it gets all this talk, but it may have nothing to do with them, and then I get myself all upset over nothing. With the mystery surrounding this case, people have begun to speculate whether or not certain convicted criminals whose names make the news are actually tied to the Delphi murders. OR he passed the girls and tried to speak to them and was rebuffed by Libby which made him angry, and he then began to stalk them. According to Leigh Kerr, the BG took locks of hair from the victims. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. We must continue to be mindful of their surviving family members and the entire Carroll County community who are affected by this investigation., Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, The FBI has provided assistance to the Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriffs Office in this investigation and will continue to help in any way we can to see justice done for Libby and Abby. Theyre seeing evil in everything where theres generally none. I would like to remind the public that this is an active and ongoing investigation, and we will do everything we can to protect its integrity and to not try it in the court of public opinion. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. In . Because the conditions of two men being alone with each other and out of sight of others for a significant period of time are pretty narrow. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. Its the wife herself supposedly coming back to give him his keys. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. Our profession will not allow us to speak on what we think, but to always speak about what we know. The arrest has been long awaited by the families of Liberty and Abigail, as well as for the community of Delphi, which has kept a close eye on the investigation. Speaking to The U.S. Sun last month, Libby's mom, Carrie German, said that should the search along the Wabash be related to her daughter's murder, she hopes Kline isn't leading cops on a "wild goose chase.". Initial searches of the area didn't turn up the girls and local law enforcement halted the search at dark, picking it up the following morning. Were going to keep pushing all the way. A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. Where are those people? Thx for the point about girls being abducted off trails and being boxed in on both sides in both cases. VERY strange indeed. The photo, which was recovered from Libertys cellphone, showed a man who authorities said was walking on the Delphi Historic Trails and might have participated in the murders, according to a news release. I was just listening to a podcast episode about the Evansdale murders, and I noticed something: 1) both sets of girls were abducted off a recreational trail, and at a point where they were blocked on both sides (in Delphi by the height of the bridge, in Evansdale by chain link fences on either side), and 2) in both cases the girls were killed and/or dumped at a local hunting ground. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Thats one theory we are looking at. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. Would you consider writing a post on him? Days after the bodies were found, Indiana State Police released a photo of a man they suspected was involved in the killings. But werent the FBI involved from the start? I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. Both of the Pattys are quite insistent that theres no way he did it after all, he was a friend of theirs. We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. Discovery: February 14, 2017 Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the. "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? It also appeared the girls bodies were moved and staged., The agent goes on to say, Based upon my training and experience it is common for perpetrators of this type of crime to take a souvenir or, in some fashion, memorialize the crime scene.. Ive always said that I would be screaming on the rooftop. . We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. Thats after he had been at the site for 18 hours after he first lost his keys from 6:30 PM 2/13 12:30 PM 2/14 and then another eight hours from 12:30 PM 2/14 to 8:30 PM on the same day for a total of 26 hours after losing his keys. Radio says his wife is due to be coming to bring him back his keys and please let her in when she comes. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. and our Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. But definitely I dont know him.". New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. We now have two search party members who are backing up some of these bizarre allegations. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. I also think the girls went to the bridge to meet YGS, but they got OGS instead, or possibly both. 4 min read. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. That is very interesting. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Stores would have been stocked with them that week. Authorities previously released a. On the Evansdale, Delphi case, who is the suspect? About the stuffed animals hanging from the trees. Either he went there to hunt or he was set off by their rudeness and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. "That is correct.". That stuffed animal is sitting right next to the body of poor Abby. At least, assuming the Mr. X stuff is confirmed. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. I could go on and on. You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. You disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected to what? Local LE may cover for Mr X (awful) but would the FBI? There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Example, women think they got game, they dont.. That sort of thing. We would love to hear your thoughts on him and why or why not he might be a suspect in the Delphi murders. Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. The search continued Tuesday morning, Valentine's Day, along the trails and the creek. "It would be great to finally get some justice for the girls. The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. Kline replied: "I have no clue. I think I read about that case! I would have thought that the name would have been accidentally leaked in town to let the families handle it if LE is unable to. Whats that a photo of above then? And thats not even the start of the weirdness. McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. Indiana State Police confirmed to WISH-TV on Wednesday afternoon that the search ended after six weeks. However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. His wife was with BP when the call came to Becky that the girls had been found. Non-uniform officers searched. I sure would like to know more about this. The two best friends went missing while on a hike through the historic trails Delphi, Ind. DELPHI, Ind. I appreciate your work. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. To have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior thats about to occur.. Or a twisted kind of guilt or compassion for the girls? However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. That area was not searched until after dark on the 13th. "My office, me, felt it was important to seal those records," McLeland said. Arrest made in Delphi case: Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east. (http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html). Otherwise I think there is some hammer that comes down and hits the pig in the head. Kline, 27, has never been named publicly as a suspect in the Delphi murders, but he's alleged to have been in contact with Libby, 14, the night before she was killed, police documents show. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. Ok, thats so crazy that its almost impossible to believe its true. He tells off women in passive aggressive hostile posts. That should at least tell us something. Not much of Allen and his arrest is known as most of the case-related documents are under seal. Indiana State Police. Until his arrest last week on two counts of first-degree murder, Allen, 50, had no prior criminal record. Big Tweety bird eyes. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. Carter, during Monday's news conference, noted the suspect had been living in Delphi all this time, the nearly six years since the teens were found killed Feb. 14, 2017, on a trail east of Delphi. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. Hi Robert. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of an unsolved double homicide. Good job! I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. The Peru home he shared with his father, Tony Kline, was raided 12 days after Libby and Abby were found dead. And the girls may well have been moved and put there late at night. Why would they do that? On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. DELPHI, Ind. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. One of the only early clues to their killing was a video Libby took on her phone, capturing a man approaching them, who then could be heard telling the girls to go "down the hill. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. A rose will bloom, it then will fade. Kline denied involvement in the girls' deaths, calling the timing of his correspondence with Libby a "weird a** coincidence.". Ive seen some criticism of your stuffed bear theory, and I personally think its nuts, but if that image is realIf it is real, what do think the motive was? Theres a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it. Officials weren't sure just how many volunteers came, but sign-in sheets appeared to log hundreds." RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. Note that she pluralized the noun. Nice guy! You dont think there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? Im pretty sure Chadwell is a hunter and fisherman. Privacy Policy. Grays videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. They force his wife to abandon their house.. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. Second thing to consider, From what I understand (per the Prosecutors podcast on the Delphi Murders from a few months ago, which isnt entirely accurate but better than most) they called the official search party off at 11pm or midnight.

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