May 5, 2019 #18 ThunderMug95 Senior Member. I did all Kicker speakers, a Key 200.4 amp and a 8" Hideaway mounted under the rear seat utilizing a plug play harness. The tough all-aluminum chassis and stylish metal grille protect the speaker and deliver great sound. Very good bass response Join the community today and get started. I did have to purchase about 3 feet of 14 gage wire for the remote turn on line which I tied into the fuse box for a 12volt signal that tells the amplifier that the accessories are on I also purchased electrical tape and wire splicing connectors to tie in the speaker level input lines to the factory radioEverything else comes with the package again I am extremely pleased with the sound I'm getting out of this device I installed in a 2015 Ford Explorer under the driver seat, It comes with everything needed to install it to a factory audio system.Enter. 1-888-292-2575. 207 0 obj <>stream 180, Bass Boost: rotary dial to adjust the bass boost; continuously The Kicker 11HS8 8" 150W Hideaway Subwoofer was one of the first attempts at a subwoofer with a built-in amplifier. Decent sound too. i have a tundra and yes it can mount under the rear seat no problem . Awesome. They don't get that hot as long as nothing on top of it your fine. I don't remember exactly, however the Hot lead seemed to be about 6 foot. It will sound great either way! Frequency response 25-150Hz Bass Boost 6+db @ 40Hz. If I set the X over point on the HU and AMP the same arent I doubling the Dbls which isnt ideal? Please reach out to our advisors via chat or phone at 1-800-324-9695 to discuss connection to the factory system in your Passat. You have to make sure it's secured otherwise you will hear/feel the base plus the rattle. Make sure to get a low clearance sub box and woofer. I'm installing a 10" kicker hideaway in my 2016 F150 XLT with the stock, basic 6 speaker radio and 8" screen. I used the supplied L-brackets that screw into the sub and attached the to the two rear corners of the sub. I read somewhere to tie into front speakers but that seams more difficult. You'll want the full range signal from the front speakers and I build custom harnesses for this exact purpose. Kicker calls it "SORT" which stands for Short, Overvoltage, Reverse polarity, and Thermal. Sorry for your loss by the way. Estimated wait for next available agent : Well email you a transcript of this conversation for your records. I was hoping someone could help Ive had and was happy with the kicker hideaway 8 for almost a year now. J.R. and Eric aren't afraid to share their opinions with each other, especially on our LIVE show, Eric, our turntable expert, flexes his knowledge of music history on his radio show outside of work. All rights reserved. I cut a hole in the insulation the exact size of the speaker and mounted the sub to the rear firewall. 0000002381 00000 n We will be happy to help. Those are not included in the instructions, Vincent. I have the exact same set up and truck. You will need to "tap in" to the speaker-level signal somewhere for the Kicker 46HS10, Logan. Please reach out to our advisors via online chat or phone at 1-800-324-9695 for in-depth help with this project. Great customer service, product expertise & lifetime technical support has me as a happy customer. A friend of mine has it in his Traverse. Thank you. SpeakerCompare is protected by patents and patent applications owned by Crutchfield Corporation. It's pretty slim. Honestly this sub is pretty good for whoever's seat it's under. 163 0 obj <> endobj There is a switch on the unit to select between rca level or speaker level input. So while dealing with an amp in protect mode may be annoying, it might save you from a bigger headache down the road. I have a 2020 TRD Sport 4D. Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Exracer2, Mar 29, 2018. Im running this in a ford f250 super crew 4 door behind rear seat and it woke up my kenwood system. Advanced Forum Stats, Paid Registrations by. Depending on the vehicle and where you are mounting the sub, you might need more wire. Car Audio Discussion. This broad exposure to a wide variety of music and technology taught me a lot about what you need for good sound. Rock or county sub sounds great. Do you tie it into the front or rear speakers? 0000027086 00000 n JavaScript is disabled. This Kicker 46HS10 would be a stellar call with Retrosound, Toby. It includes a pair of studio-quality headphones, and a guide to getting the most out of your session, and a few other necessary items. They should be able to help answer your question. I did not want to give up the back under seat storage as many have done for a custom box built for their subwoofer upgrade so this was the next best option for me. Wir freuen uns, Ihnen das brandneue Lego 41027 einfhren zu drfen! The best thing to do is measure with a tape measure, it is exactly what y thebsize that Crutchfeild lists. rca? signal input (8 feet/20-gauge). You can see from my pictures where I placed mine. Hope this helps. That's what I did and it makes everything sound a lot better. I purchased this sub, replacement component set, coaxial set, and a JBL amp for them for my 4 door 2006 Tundra work truck. Your BOSS kit should have a wiring diagram take it and the KICKER wiring diagram and compare. The package includes a wiring harness for power, signal and remote turn-on connections with a quick-connect Molex plug to make installation simple. Recommended Protection Plans for Kicker 46HS10: Protect your new purchase against the risk of untimely and expensive repairs with AWS Protection coverage! . Okay, so you can splice into the existing power cables, but I would recommend that you run the other harness direct to the battery for power. Hello everyone I'm installing two SSL Lo Pro 10's in my 2015 Nissan Frontier extended cab. Note: I did not, could not, use any fixed mounts on the front of the sub as the front-left was suspended, and, the front-right (although touching the floor) did not have a flat area for the mount. I would purchase the optional AUX converters they sell as well. I probably lost about 4 pumps to go all the way down. If it starts normally, the problem is in your head unit. Hope this helps. Most of those audio outputs will be full range so be sure to use the low pass filter to make sure this sub only gets bass from the speaker. I used the extremely accurate wiring diagrams from Crutchfield to set the wiring. I'll be a customer for as long as they are in business. Since it's in my cabin it is just enough punch to cover the missing blows in my system. 0000002282 00000 n Please see our review guidelines for help and information. I don't remember if wire connectors were supplied, I had those any way. <]/Prev 1032206>> I was replacing the speakers in my wife's truck. Velcro would work but I don't know about putting it in the trunk. Box Depth: 13 7/8, 35.2 cm. Yes but u will have to locate two flat metal support in side the seat and drill mounting holes or install a flat board inside the upholstery. Get it Mar 2 - 3. Phase Switch: 0 or 180. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. No. It is kind of short. Ned's best friend helps him evaluate frequencies only dogs can hear. I had two of them and in the HS8 and a 2016 TacomaEnter an answer to this question. You will need to pull the power cable to your vehicles battery, ground it, and if you have a factory radio, tap into speaker wires to get the signal into the Kicker powered subwoofer. And after he read the thermal protection part in the manual he said it may cut the volume if its overheating. My 300.1 works during cold weather, and is screwed into the back of the back seat in the trunk..it only works now with the seath folded down. You would be best to mount this on a hard surface not necessarily the back of a seat.For the size of the unit I have been very pleased with the output I'm actually looking at buying a second one to put under my passenger seat. I'm not sure but aren't most cigarette lighters 'hot' all the time or did they change that for safety reasons? Fits perfectly fine under either seat. Deep Mode: 20Hz-200Hz; Freq resp; Check Price at Amazon. Overload Protection Circuit. 65K subscribers in the diyaudio community. 2-the amp melts through my dash. This sweet Kicker Hideaway Series 10" compact powered subwoofer comes with a 180-watt amplifier built right in, Hyun! I have a 97 TJ and it fits easily under my rear seat. Deep discounts on the essential accessories that help your new gear work with your car. Pete has been working in the trades since high school, where he first developed a passion for woodworking. I personally have one each under my front seats, since I need all the room I got in my 4Runner. His buddy Enzo smothers him with kisses during a recent photo shoot. My remote comes from head unit. The power wire is aprox 17 feet and speaker input wires aprox 8 feet. Absolutely outstanding are the words I think of to describe the selection, price, shipping, & the customer service. startxref For product selection, and vehicle specific needs, please chat with an Advisor online or by phone at 1-800-324-9695. Amplier if the amp is too hot the thermal protection is engaged. I've had many of their subwoofer amps wired at 1ohm when the manual says miniumim 2ohm. I remember the kicker hideaway was starting to distort at volume 15 on i-mid (bass, subw on mid setting on i-mid, gain @ 12 o'clock, high level input). The 12V trigger input is only required when using its preamp level input. SpeakerCompare tailors your listening experience to the exact headphones you have, so that what you hear is comparable to auditioning speakers side-by-side in person. 0000032326 00000 n Next I ran the red power cable under the front seat and middle console then up the passenger side of the Jeep through the kick panels. These things are AWESOME!!! Oh, and the sub sounds AMAZING! wow old thread, ive never seen anyone run two of them..seems like a good ideaI heard that just one might not be enough, so maybe adding that second one really makes a difference. 2019 ZR2. Automatic Turn-On Selection: KICKER powered enclosures offer two different automatic turn-on modes that can be selected on the side panel; +12V and DC Offset. Every time I use Crutchfield I am happy. check earth and voltage, does the amp go into protect or loose power. I got it in a 2006 tundra and it barley fits under driver side seat. Yes, I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised. If you bought it from Crutchfield, and its 2 months old we can send out a replacement, if its been longer than 2 months, Kicker's warranty would cover it. 0000030722 00000 n 1-the amp goes up in smoke. We want to warn you at the start; unless youre a trained electrician with access to a fully-stocked workshop, you wont be able to fix every power protect fault personally. I'm using the stock head unit in a 2019 Honda Insight. Crutchfield is a servicemark of Crutchfield Corporation. These dont displace air like a proper bass cabinet. Then, after measuring and remeasuring a dozen times to make sure the sub was positioned perfectly, I used a 3/32 drill bit to drill pilot holes for the mounts. Earn one point for every dollar you spend on gear from us. Why did you splice the RCA cables and how did you do it? So I installed the key amp without the tweeters for now. I have a 2006 Chevy ext. Remove driver's seat from Jeep: remove 4 bolts (hit them with WD40 if necessary), disconnect the electrical cable that connects under seat (presumably that powers heated seats), remove torx nut for seatbelt on side. This is clearly a good solution if you have a small space But I can't say for certain without trying it. Kicker Hideaway Specs: 150 Watts RMS @14.4 volts. S. StIgC11 Junior Member. This item: Kicker KISL K-Series Interconnect. It definitely does not need to be getting power from an add-a-fuse under the dash. The speaker wires about 6-8 feet. alex25ab - You may be able to accomplish this connection when using a Y-Splitter for connection, however, there may be a better solution available for you to use when wanting to connect multiple powered subwoofers in your vehicle. If you only grab left signal, then any bass on the right channel would be missed. KICKER - Hideaway 8" Subwoofer with Enclosure and Integrated 150W Amplifier - Black. However, my light on the sub keeps going in and out of protect mode (red to blue and back to red). Reddit's original DIY Audio subreddit to discuss speaker and amplifier projects of all types, share plans I appreciate it. Please E-mail support@kicker.com or call Technical Services (405) 624-8583 for unanswered or speci c questions. I'm pretty sure I'll be adding a KEY amp to my truck for Christmas this year. Greetings Carlos, and thank you for your question. This is an email I received from a co worker. Make sure the mounting screws will not puncture the gas tank/brake lines/wiring or interfere with any mechanical parts on the underside of the mounting surface. AN ELITE CAFEMEDIA LIFESTYLE PUBLISHER. If you cant turn your amps power light on even by pressing the button, you might be in protect mode. Sounds good too. We double check the details on each item. 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