What's worse, he did so shortly after Peggy died, even though she was supposed to be the love of his life. He says, Ill miss you. Clearly he knows something.. Also, because she grew old with Steve, seeing a young Steve Rogers would trigger her to think hes come back to her. She works as an actress and appeared in feature films, short films, as well as TV series. While many suspected that Steve Rogers would be hanging up the shield following Avengers: Endgame, the question of who would take it up was open. Yes, Cap was injected with the super serum, but he didn't age because he was put on ice and frozen in 1945. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Could the Avengers go back in time to kill baby Thanos? In Endgame, the Hulk and the Ancient One explain how changes to the past work. But the only one who even vaguely succeeds and wipes the smug smile off Thor's face is Steve who budges the hammer but doesn't lift it. and one book, 100 Things X-Men Fans Should Know & Do Before They Die, from Triumph Books. Captain America Vs. Thanos: Who Would Win? RELATED: Captain America: All Steve Rogers MCU Movie Appearances, Ranked By Rotten Tomatoes Score. When Peter Parker aka Spider-Man shows up in the airport scene in Captain America: Civil War (2016) and steals Captain America's shield, Steve doesn't seem so surprised by the young hero's presence. bitches aint shit, but hoes and tricks. Because he's Sam's father, or grandfather. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Why would the government order to play the videos in schools if Steve Rogers was indeed a war criminal at the time? Cinemablend is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. If Hulks theory stays true, Cap is not the father of those kids he saw in previous movies. All the while, another Cap fought the battles weve seen before. It would also satisfy many of the fans, who have been anticipating this moment since 2011, waiting for Steve to get his happy ending and dance with his best girl. Othrys In the Disney movie Hercules, there's a scene where Hades frees the Titans, and sends them to kill Zeus. Because it would force him to talk to Bucky, who would tell him all about it and that would be the beginnings of a beautiful friendship. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day, Get the scoops first! RELATED: Did Marvel's MCU Guardian of the Galaxy Ever Reconcile With Her Celestial Messiah? MORE: Avengers: Endgame Writer Confirms 'Old Steve' Cameo Theory. Avengers: Endgame was designed to bring Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe to a close, and while it largely left fans satisfied, that's not to say it didn't leave fans with a few questions as the credits began to roll. Steve Rogers is an important figure in Marvel's Avengers. Evenifthis ending was locked in stone back whenThe Winter Soldierwas made, there's no other option for Peggy than to lie to Steve about his future. If so, that would allow him to live in the shadows as Peggys secret husband who has been acknowledged but gone unidentified so far in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Many people didn't like Steve Rogers' no-nonsense, serious personality, but he also had a sense of humor and kindness inside him that made him one of the more nuanced MCU characters. The Hollywood Reporter is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. 1 1.Endgame, at the end, why did old Steve refuse to tell Sam - Quora; 2 2. But no matter the result, it would be pretty close. Later in that issue, Captain America fought against Namor alongside the Avengers and it was made very clear that they did NOT know each other That, though, did not fit with the fact that we later learned that Captain America and Namor had been on a team together called the Invaders (the Invaders made their debut in a time travel storyline in Avengers #71 by Roy Thomas, Sal Buscemsa and Sam Grainge, where the Avengers were forced to fight against the World War II superheroes as part of some Kang/Grandmaster game). All Rights Reserved. In their feature spotlighting revelations first unveiled outside of comics, CSBG shows why Cap and Namor didn't recognize each other in Avengers #4. See what EW thinks of the 'Avengers: Endgame,' starring Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, Paul Rudd, Brie Larson, and more. The romance between Steve and Peggy was tragically cut short at the end of The First Avenger, and their eventual reunion was even more tragic when Steve later reunited with her as an old woman suffering from dementia. One of the biggest plot problems when it comes to Steve and Peggy's relationship is the Sharon and Steve love story. Privacy Policy. Having him live quietly for decades in the prime reality also creates a lot of paradoxes: Why doesnt he disrupt Hyrdras infiltration of SHIELD sooner? Explains why sam got the shield. However, here's the tricky part. Thanks to my pal Tom A. for noting how Priest explained some of it in the past, as well. We didnt change anything about it.. Content Summary. Of course, there are many reasons why Sam works too, but the movie just didn't devote a lot of time to fleshing out the process. Captain America is a smart man but he made some questionable decisions back in the day. Could that even mean that the MCU now exists on an alternate timeline? But that does raise the question of why she would still have a photo of Steve on her desk if she was already married to someone else with a family of her own. CBR Senior Writer Brian Cronin has been writing professionally about comic books for over fifteen years now at CBR (primarily with his Comics Should Be Good series of columns, including Comic Book Legends Revealed). NY 10036. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon. But how? Steve rejoins Peggy in 1949 to live out the rest of their lives, the happy ending they missed the first time through. Offers may be subject to change without notice. Inthe sequel, Steve visits an aged and sick Peggy, whonow appears to have liedto Steve as she knew of his ultimate future. Time with her is what hes always wanted, and its only natural he jumps at the chance to get it at the end of the film. The question then becomes, how is he back in this reality to give the shield away?, Interesting question, right? Joe said. At least, not as we know him. Why would he say "I'm gonna miss you" if it's gonna be five seconds? His writing has been featured at ESPN.com, the Los Angeles Times, About.com, the Huffington Post and Gizmodo. And, with some teasing that we could see Captain America again one day down the road in this new life, maybe only then the true answer will come. That is also why the photos on Peggys nightstand were of only her and their children. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. It's a funny moment but it doesn't correspond with what is known about the hammer - a person is either worthy of lifting it or the hammer doesn't move at all. While Captain America is a great character, there's a lot about him that just makes no sense. When Cap doesn't return right away through the time portal, Professor Hulk (Mark Ruffalo) is perplexed and explains that he blew past his time stamp. Why Didn't Captain America Mention Meeting Black Panther's Grandfather? Marvel Studios has already broken new. The movie made sure not to show any picture of Peggy with her husband. She tells Steve she has lived a long and fulfilling life before going through an episode where she thinks Steve has come back to her. That doesnt negate their relationship. Following the end of WWII, she and the man married and had two children together. noted that there was a Captain America/Black Panther miniseries that offered an explanation. As the writers most responsible for Steve's MCU journey,they say they've had the idea of Steve returning to live with Peggy in mind for a while. It is a bit hard to forget a dude in a red, white and blue costume calling himself Captain America. But then he doesnt come back. Lets spitball the possibilities: Maybe in the timeline where Old Cap has been living the shield he gave Sam actually belonged to that dimensions Sam Wilson. After all, his own shield was shredded by Thanos in the final battle of Endgame. Cooper Hood is a news and feature writer for Screen Rant. But what about Peggys grandniece Sharon Carter (Emily VanCamp), who had a romance with Steve? Similarly, Cap and Namor teamed up with Human Torch 1953's Young Men #26 (by Don Rico and John Romita), but that, too, was determined to have been ANOTHER replacement Captain America named William Burnside. Namor, being a bit of a petulant jerk, chucked the ice into the water, where it melted and Cap came out of suspended animation and was discovered by the Avengers. When he isnt writing about or watching new releases, Cooper is a fantasy football obsessive and looking to expand his Blu-Ray collection because physical media is still king! Why? Even Haley Atwell, the star of the show, has never been able to give a definitive answer to the husband mystery. Cap and Peggy get their dance. Theres a lot of layers built into this movie and we spent three years thinking through it, so its fun to talk about it and hopefully fill in holes for people so they understand what were thinking., There are other questions in this sequence that set up this future story. When he politely declines to tell Sam about his wife, it may be a nod to the audience: You don't get to know any of it either. Directors Joe and Anthony Russo dont clear this up through the filmmaking after Cap jumps, the camera glides over to find Old Cap, who, if Hulk and Tony Stark are right, has been living under cover this entire time, a happily married man. Press J to jump to the feed. After all, he works for the S.H.I.E.L.D. Maybe theres a story there. Because he also paid Sam's mom a visit. Oh, Peggy Was Lying To Steve In Captain America: The Winter Soldier? All we can do is our best and sometimes the best we can do is to start over." Another question: Where was future Steve during Peggys time in the nursing home and at her funeral? This story was a revised version of the first meeting between Captain America and T'Chaka, T'Challa's FATHER in Black Panther #30 (by Christopher Priest and Norm Breyfogle). When he politely declines to tell Sam about his wife, it may be a nod to the audience: You dont get to know any of it either. She couldn't tell him what would happen over the next decade or so of his life, as doing so could have likely altered Steve's mindset and decisions he made. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. Red Skull felt slated because Cap didn't recognize him." . Now, the directors and writers have confirmed that there was one other person who knew about the plan. On the other hand, Joe adds, Sam doesnt know something. Falcon has no idea about Old Cap, which is why The Winter Soldier urges him to go up and talk to the now-elderly Steve Rogers. What if the past wasnt actually erased, because future Steve Rogers is Peggys unnamed husband? Obviously, the "real" answer is that the story about Captain America and T'Challa's grandfather/father took place many years later, so obviously the earlier story wasn't connected to this one (heck, the idea of there even BEING a Black Panther before T'Challa was a retcon, in and of itself). That Steve dated Sharon Carter. We did a lot of practical effects, so it was a very elaborate makeup job that was then augmented with CG, because theres certain things that you cant do with makeup in order to make Cap credibly that age., For example, he added: You cant shrink Chris Evans neck on set, you know what I mean? As he declares his friend Sam The Falcon Wilson the new Captain America, the film concludes with the reveal that Steve took advantage of the time displacement to live the happy life that his ol friend Tony talked about. 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Hudlin pushed it to T'Challa's grandfather (and knowing what we know now about the various things that are done to the Black Panther vis a vis enhanced abilities, it could probably remain his grandfather for a loooooong time, as T'Challa's father could be born at pretty much any point that we feel like, honestly. True, considering Steve's real age, everybody is a kid to him, but it's still a nice hypothetical twist that the films just didn't focus on. Obviously, if it doesnt work perfectly, it can undermine the emotional intention of the scene, says Anthony Russo. Related: Theory: Captain America Became Mr. Rodgers After Traveling Back In Time. But why didn't he choose Bucky instead? Follow him on Twitter at @Brian_Cronin and feel free to e-mail him suggestions for stories about comic books that you'd like to see featured at brianc@cbr.com! But if that was his own family all along, then this ending allowed him to keep his integrity intact while marrying his soulmate and fulfilling his future. However, while that explains why Cap didn't bring it up to T'Challa and even why he didn't recognize Black Panther right away, it DOESN'T explain why Cap's thought balloons clearly note that he doesn't know where Wakanda is. Avengers: Endgame drops the crumbs for Caps eventual decision to stay in the past multiple times during the teams time heist. Does Rogers mean this as in, it is yours now, or is he telling the literal truth? Today, learn why Captain America didn't tell T'Challa about how he met T'Challa's grandfather (also known as Black Panther) when Cap met T'Challa for the first time. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. He doesn't, however, find someone who could help him overcome his feelings and instead channels them by fighting villains and punching boxing bags. It was established inCaptain America: Winter Soldier (2014) that Peggy ended up marrying after Steves apparent death and having children. Maybe well get our own answered in the streaming series called Falcon and Winter Soldier which is in the works for the Disney+ service. Hes coy about saying her name in both classic Hollywood and Marvel fashion, therell always be a little mystery to their on-screen romance but this is one of the happy endings. Then either he or his son ends up with Sam's mother. She goes on to say,"The world has changed and none of us can go back. 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Marvel Studios has already broken new ground with interlocked storytelling, so perhaps the next experiment is tiered storytelling alternate versions of familiar tales. It's clear that he already understood what had happened, but now we know it's because Steve told him. It's also respectful to her now that she has gone. When that did not jog Namor's memory, Johnny did what any responsible superhero would do - he grabbed Namor, flew into the sky and then dumped him into the harbor. Peggy's orders." Colleen O'Brien and Peggy Carter [src] "Peg, you work at the phone company; it ain't life and death." "Darling, you have no idea." Colleen O'Brien and Peggy Carter [src] "Agent Carter, we just pulled a red ball out of D.C. All hands on deck. Wouldnt she recognize Uncle Steve as Captain America? Heres how it works. Future Club 33 Member. He keeps his compass with her photo on him at all times, even during his excursion to the Battle of New York (causing 2012 Caps jaw to drop, since Loki wouldnt have that on his person), and gazes longingly at her when hes hiding in her office. Steve and Peggy Carter are the ultimate tragic love story that turned out to have a happy ending after all. Peggy and Steve's time together was cut short during World War II after Steve crashed Red Skull's ship, but that wasn't the end of their story. Does anyone think Steve and Peggy had kids? He then realizes the office belongs to Peggy and sees her through the window. To live out his days with the love of his life, Peggy Carter. alternate timeline where he lived with Peggy after giving Sam the shield, though fans can't agree if there even is an alternate . But the final scene of Endgame shows Cap and Peggy dancing to a slow song in a home that felt like. In Captain America: Civil War, Sharon and Steve walk back to a hotel after the funeral and before Sam Wilson rushes to tell him about the terrorist attack, Steve asks Sharon if Peggy knew. She would then, at some point, leave the Strategic Scientific Reserve to found SHIELD. In the end, Steve Rogers goes on a solo trip to restore the Infinity Stones from the other time dimensions to the moment they were taken, thereby bringing them back into alignment with the main timeline. Its unlikely Steve went back to that year to be with Peggy, especially since she would have already had a family by then. Captain America: All Steve Rogers MCU Movie Appearances, Ranked By Rotten Tomatoes Score, 10 Most Memorable Quotes From Captain America: The Winter Soldier. By the time he showed up in 2023 in Endgame, Steve would had been over 100 years old. And Other Comic Book Legends Revealed and Why Does Batman Carry Shark Repellent? 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